Missing Stop Sequences/Naptan ID Mismatch/Issue with API Bus arrivals

Date of report: 11/8/22
Issues/others:

Incorrect stop names for Bus 81 towards Slough:

  • “Red Lion” Should be (Horton Road) 03700158
  • “The Toby” Should be (High Street Langley) 03700086
  • “St Bernards Convert” Should be (Langley Road) 03700075
  • “Slough Grammar School” Should be (Sussex Place) 03700308
  • “Sorting Office” Should be (Wexham Road) 03700310
  • “Queensmere Car Park” Should be (Queensmere Shopping Centre) 03700340

Incorrect stop names for Bus 81 towards Hounslow:

  • “Uxbridge Road Sainsbury’s” Should be (Sussex Place) 03700309
  • “St Bernards Convert” Should be (Langley Road) 03700074
  • “The Toby” Should be (High Street Langley) 03700087
  • “Red Lion” Should be (Horton Road) 03700157

Incorrect stop names for Bus 331 towards Uxbridge:

  • "Moorfield Road” Should be (Savay Lane) 040000001315
  • "Station Parade” Should be (Denham Station) 040000001313
  • “Old Rectory Lane” Should be (Tilehouse Lane) 040000001311
  • “Denham Avenue” Should be (Ronan Way) 040000001307
  • "Springbridge Nurseries” Should be (Oxford Gardens) 040000001305

Incorrect stop names for Bus 331 towards Ruislip:

  • “Springbridge Nurseries” Should be (Southlands Road) 040000001306
  • "Station Parade” Should be (Denham Station) 040000001348
  • “Moorfield Road” Should be (Link Way) 040000001316
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I think that all the buses that used to “call in at” Stratford City Bus Station now use the stops on Montfichet Road to save time. As far as I can see when I pass, only the 97 and RRBS use the Stratford City Bus Station.

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Hi @briantist,

Still confused which is why i couldn’t think anything to reply, assuming that the 308 would serve Bus Stop (X) towards Clapton Pond and being the other direction serving Bus Stop (S) towards Wanstead?

Regards,
A

@Ajebz

Here’s what the TfL web site says

And here’s what Google StreetView says (stops S and U).

and here’s stop X which is used by south-bound services

Sometimes (when the local soccer is on) the main road gets closed and bus stop X isn’t used.

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@briantist

Appears different in the API. which questions me to believe if the 159 would serve Brixton Station (Q) just because the API would show arrivals for this stop just like Stratford City.
I’m not too sure.

@jamesevans is there any proposed changes at Stratford City Bus Station?

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Regards,
A

@Ajebz

Interestingly, Google Maps has at least put the bus stops for Stratford City Bus Station in the actual locations, unlike the above TfL map which directs peoples to non-pedestrian areas.

(Add to this that some cars turn into the “out only” portion of Hitchcock Lane (because I guess the little blue sign is hard to see) and it’s a wonder that no-one has been seriously injured around here.)

This is all a bit rum. London Vehicle Finder shows 308 buses due at the stops with SMS coded 91550 (towards Wanstead) and 91551 (towards Clapton), These are stops W and T, both within the bus station. This would be logical as buses would have to loop via the bus station. The service does not run past the bus station; it is a double run from the International Avenue junction to serve the bus station. So it would not be serving stops on Montfichet Road instead - even if it did it would save no time.

These two stops are also amongst the selected timing points in the current 308 bus working timetable (most stops aren’t timing points in this sense) and have been for years. They are also both present in the Journey Planner file in Datastore.

However, if I try to use Journey Planner to get a bus from Stratford City to Wanstead I am told to get a 241 to Windmill Lane and change to the 308! Also, the Countdown screen which comes up for either stop does not include 308 arrivals.

Just because LVF shows buses as due does not mean that they actually ever get there but I’m slightly bemused as to why LVF shows them at all if it is using the same feed as Countdown.

I’m wondering whether buses are missing out the double run to the bus station altogether and running direct between the Windmill Lane and Stratford International stops (and vice versa).

All in all, an odd disconnect somewhere but determining where is above my pay grade.

@mjcarchive

Because they are building flats on the site of the old Stratford International Bus Station, the 108 bus runs along Penny Brookes Street (without stopping) to a new stop of Celebration Avenue (called “Stratford International DLR” on the stop I think) and then “terminates” at the stop of International Way.

I have no idea where the 108 waits to mark time as it did before when it had a “Bus Station” to itself.

(As an aside, if the 108 bus tuned left into International Way and the returned via Penny Brookes Street, a bus stop at the bottom of Mirabelle Gardens would be usefully near where tens of thousands of people live, rather than a vacant lot.

Date of report: 18/8/22
Issues/others:

Incorrect stop names for Bus 81 towards Slough:

  • “Red Lion” Should be (Horton Road) 03700158
  • “The Toby” Should be (High Street Langley) 03700086
  • “St Bernards Convert” Should be (Langley Road) 03700075
  • “Slough Grammar School” Should be (Sussex Place) 03700308
  • “Sorting Office” Should be (Wexham Road) 03700310
  • “Queensmere Car Park” Should be (Queensmere Shopping Centre) 03700340

Incorrect stop names for Bus 81 towards Hounslow:

  • “Uxbridge Road Sainsbury’s” Should be (Sussex Place) 03700309
  • “St Bernards Convert” Should be (Langley Road) 03700074
  • “The Toby” Should be (High Street Langley) 03700087
  • “Red Lion” Should be (Horton Road) 03700157

Incorrect stop names for Bus 331 towards Uxbridge:

  • "Moorfield Road” Should be (Savay Lane) 040000001315
  • "Station Parade” Should be (Denham Station) 040000001313
  • “Old Rectory Lane” Should be (Tilehouse Lane) 040000001311
  • “Denham Avenue” Should be (Ronan Way) 040000001307
  • "Springbridge Nurseries” Should be (Oxford Gardens) 040000001305

Incorrect stop names for Bus 331 towards Ruislip:

  • “Springbridge Nurseries” Should be (Southlands Road) 040000001306
  • "Station Parade” Should be (Denham Station) 040000001348
  • “Moorfield Road” Should be (Link Way) 040000001316

Date: 25/8/22
Issues/others:

Incorrect stop names for Bus 81 towards Slough:

  • “Red Lion” Should be (Horton Road) 03700158
  • “The Toby” Should be (High Street Langley) 03700086
  • “St Bernards Convert” Should be (Langley Road) 03700075
  • “Slough Grammar School” Should be (Sussex Place) 03700308
  • “Sorting Office” Should be (Wexham Road) 03700310
  • “Queensmere Car Park” Should be (Queensmere Shopping Centre) 03700340

Incorrect stop names for Bus 81 towards Hounslow:

  • “Uxbridge Road Sainsbury’s” Should be (Sussex Place) 03700309
  • “St Bernards Convert” Should be (Langley Road) 03700074
  • “The Toby” Should be (High Street Langley) 03700087
  • “Red Lion” Should be (Horton Road) 03700157

Incorrect stop names for Bus 331 towards Uxbridge:

  • "Moorfield Road” Should be (Savay Lane) 040000001315
  • "Station Parade” Should be (Denham Station) 040000001313
  • “Old Rectory Lane” Should be (Tilehouse Lane) 040000001311
  • “Denham Avenue” Should be (Ronan Way) 040000001307
  • "Springbridge Nurseries” Should be (Oxford Gardens) 040000001305

Incorrect stop names for Bus 331 towards Ruislip:

  • “Springbridge Nurseries” Should be (Southlands Road) 040000001306
  • "Station Parade” Should be (Denham Station) 040000001348
  • “Moorfield Road” Should be (Link Way) 040000001316

Date: 9/9/22
Issues/others:

Incorrect stop names for Bus 81 towards Slough:

  • “Red Lion” Should be (Horton Road) 03700158
  • “The Toby” Should be (High Street Langley) 03700086
  • “St Bernards Convert” Should be (Langley Road) 03700075
  • “Slough Grammar School” Should be (Sussex Place) 03700308
  • “Sorting Office” Should be (Wexham Road) 03700310
  • “Queensmere Car Park” Should be (Queensmere Shopping Centre) 03700340

Incorrect stop names for Bus 81 towards Hounslow:

  • “Uxbridge Road Sainsbury’s” Should be (Sussex Place) 03700309
  • “St Bernards Convert” Should be (Langley Road) 03700074
  • “The Toby” Should be (High Street Langley) 03700087
  • “Red Lion” Should be (Horton Road) 03700157

Incorrect stop names for Bus 331 towards Uxbridge:

  • "Moorfield Road” Should be (Savay Lane) 040000001315
  • "Station Parade” Should be (Denham Station) 040000001313
  • “Old Rectory Lane” Should be (Tilehouse Lane) 040000001311
  • “Denham Avenue” Should be (Ronan Way) 040000001307
  • "Springbridge Nurseries” Should be (Oxford Gardens) 040000001305

Incorrect stop names for Bus 331 towards Ruislip:

  • “Springbridge Nurseries” Should be (Southlands Road) 040000001306
  • "Station Parade” Should be (Denham Station) 040000001348
  • “Moorfield Road” Should be (Link Way) 040000001316

Date: 23/9/22
Issues/others:

Incorrect stop names for Bus 81 towards Slough:

  • “Red Lion” Should be (Horton Road) 03700158
  • “The Toby” Should be (High Street Langley) 03700086
  • “St Bernards Convert” Should be (Langley Road) 03700075
  • “Slough Grammar School” Should be (Sussex Place) 03700308
  • “Sorting Office” Should be (Wexham Road) 03700310
  • “Queensmere Car Park” Should be (Queensmere Shopping Centre) 03700340

Incorrect stop names for Bus 81 towards Hounslow:

  • “Uxbridge Road Sainsbury’s” Should be (Sussex Place) 03700309
  • “St Bernards Convert” Should be (Langley Road) 03700074
  • “The Toby” Should be (High Street Langley) 03700087
  • “Red Lion” Should be (Horton Road) 03700157

Incorrect stop names for Bus 331 towards Uxbridge:

  • "Moorfield Road” Should be (Savay Lane) 040000001315
  • "Station Parade” Should be (Denham Station) 040000001313
  • “Old Rectory Lane” Should be (Tilehouse Lane) 040000001311
  • “Denham Avenue” Should be (Ronan Way) 040000001307
  • "Springbridge Nurseries” Should be (Oxford Gardens) 040000001305

Incorrect stop names for Bus 331 towards Ruislip:

  • “Springbridge Nurseries” Should be (Southlands Road) 040000001306
  • "Station Parade” Should be (Denham Station) 040000001348
  • “Moorfield Road” Should be (Link Way) 040000001316

@jamesevans,

I’ve been to Stratford City and Victoria to see some of the lines serving at these stops, however isn’t the same on the API. Can this be looked into. Screenshots below.

Regards,
A






I’m a mainline driver and it’s very frustrating to me.

Date: 29/9/22
Resolved:

  • 52 in both directions is now serving Victoria Station (A)

Issues/others:

Incorrect stop names for Bus 81 towards Slough:

  • “Red Lion” Should be (Horton Road) 03700158
  • “The Toby” Should be (High Street Langley) 03700086
  • “St Bernards Convert” Should be (Langley Road) 03700075
  • “Slough Grammar School” Should be (Sussex Place) 03700308
  • “Sorting Office” Should be (Wexham Road) 03700310
  • “Queensmere Car Park” Should be (Queensmere Shopping Centre) 03700340

Incorrect stop names for Bus 81 towards Hounslow:

  • “Uxbridge Road Sainsbury’s” Should be (Sussex Place) 03700309
  • “St Bernards Convert” Should be (Langley Road) 03700074
  • “The Toby” Should be (High Street Langley) 03700087
  • “Red Lion” Should be (Horton Road) 03700157

Incorrect stop names for Bus 331 towards Uxbridge:

  • "Moorfield Road” Should be (Savay Lane) 040000001315
  • "Station Parade” Should be (Denham Station) 040000001313
  • “Old Rectory Lane” Should be (Tilehouse Lane) 040000001311
  • “Denham Avenue” Should be (Ronan Way) 040000001307
  • "Springbridge Nurseries” Should be (Oxford Gardens) 040000001305

Incorrect stop names for Bus 331 towards Ruislip:

  • “Springbridge Nurseries” Should be (Southlands Road) 040000001306
  • "Station Parade” Should be (Denham Station) 040000001348
  • “Moorfield Road” Should be (Link Way) 040000001316
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