Problems with /Line/Route/Sequence 7/7/20-31/12/20

New Thread, following on from Problems with /Line/Route/Sequence 8/1/20-31/6/20

Results of update dated 7/7/2020:

Lines restored: 18, District, N63, N72, Woolwich Ferry
Line deleted: 521
Lines duplicated: K1, K2, K3, N33, N41, N65, N68, N73, N89, N109, N171, N250, S1, U1(triple), U4, U7, W4

Circle line missing Hammersmith-Edgware Road, in both directions
E7 missing direct route, avoiding Ruislip High St, in both directions

Result of update dated 13/7/2020:

Line deleted: 521
Lines duplicated: K1, K2, K3, N33, N41, N65, N68, N73, N89, N109, N171, N250, S1, U1(triple), U4, U7, W4

Circle line: I gather that the Hammersmith-Edgware Road section is not being operated - there is nothing in the status notice on the main Tfl site to hint at this
E7 missing direct route, avoiding Ruislip High St, in both directions
Piccadilly: missing Hatton Cross to Heathrow Central via Terminal 4

I’m glad I’m not the only one to notice this reoccurring issue. I’ve realised that bus route lines tend to disappear from the system when there is a route alteration (extension or cutback) or a change in operator.

Why does anyone know why this continues to persist exactly? It doesn’t make the Unified API very reliable for querying line information…

Hi @nickp

We’ve identified an issue with generating the file for bus 521. We’ve manually generated the file for this and hopefully we can get that in this weeks data build. We’ll look to see why the automated generation is not working but we’ll add the manual file in until that’s done.

The E7 is on long term diversion which is scheduled to finish on Monday and the Ruislip High St section should be available after that.

The Piccadilly Line to T4 is currently closed so no timetables are available to generate the stop sequence. Once a service is running on that section, the data should be available.

I’ve been told that the Circle Line is not running to Hammersmith at the moment. I’m trying to find some more details on this and I’ll get back to you.

I have some theories on the duplicate routes, but haven’t had much time to investigate of late. Hopefully as things start to get to the “new normal” I will have some more time to look at that.

Thanks,
James

Thanks @jamesevans

I didn’t see any of those in status updates or bus route changes, but will stop flagging them for now. I’ll await the results of your investigations on the other stuff. As I mentioned earlier, the duplication looks as if it relates to route amendments being input as additional routs rather than changes. Still doesn’t excuse the dulpicate numbering, though…

Status updates for buses are not reliable. According to them, the 322 is running normally. According to the Journey Planner Newsletter there is a convoluted long term diversion to get round a closure in Atlantic Road, the road closure being confirmed elsewhere.as having started best part of a fortnight ago.

I have not seen it myself, nor am I likely to, but there does seem to be a distinct lack of joining up.

Michael

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Result of update dated 21/7/2020:

Lines restored: 521, K3, U3, U4, U7

Lines duplicated: G1, K1, K2, N5, N7, N27, N28, N33, N41, N44, N63, N65, N68, N73, N89(triple), N109, N171(triple), N205, N250, N343, S1, U1(triple), W4

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Result of update dated 28/7/2020:

Lines restored: N5, N7, N27, N68, N109, N205, N250

Lines duplicated: G1, K1, K2, N28, N33, N41, N44, N63(triple), N65(triple), N73, N89(triple), N91, N171(triple), N343, S1, U1(triple), U3, U4, U7, W4

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Result of update dated 18/8/20:
(note 3-week gap…)

Line restored: N41, N73, N89, W4

Lines deleted: 25, 55, HereEast Shuttle
Line duplicated: G1, H12, H91, K1, K2, N2, N9, N28, N33, N44, N63(triple), N65(triple), N87(triple), N91, N133, N171(triple), N242(triple, inbound only), N266, N343, R4, S1, U1(triple), U3, U4, U7, W15

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I see there have been timetable changes for route 55 and N242 as of 15th August 2020: https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/buses/bus-changes#on-this-page-2

Route 112 is due to be extended at the end of the month, so I wouldn’t be surprised if we see this disappear from the feed too.

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Result of update dated 19/8/2020 (published 26/8):

Line restored: 25
Lines duplicated: G1, H12, H91, K1, K2, N2, N9, N28, N33, N44, N63(triple), N65(triple), N87(triple), N91, N133, N171(triple), N242(triple), N266, N343, R4, S1, U1(triple), U3, U4, U7, W15

Central line: missing all eastbound and Epping-Woodford, Hainault-Leytonstone, North Acton-Ealing Broadway westbound

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Result of upate dated 8/9/2020:

Lines restored: 55 (should have been logged as deleted in 19/8), Central, H91, K1, N9, N28, N63, N65, N266, N343, R4, S1, U3, U4, U7, W15
Lines duplicated: 397, G1, H12, H28, K2, N33, N44, N87(triple), N91, N133, N171, N242, U1

401: inbound (Bexleyheath to Thamesmead) missing
W16: inbound (Leytonstone to Chingford Mount) missing

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Result of update dated 5/9/2020:

Lines restored: 397, 401, N2, N133, W16
Lines duplicated: C10, G1, H12, H28, K2, N1, N26, N33, N44, N87(triple), N91, N171, N242, U1

269: inbound missing (Bromley North-Bexleyheath)

Result of update dated 22/9/2020:
(note that previous post should have been dated 15/9, not 5/9 - can’t edit it for some reason)

Lines restored: 269, C10, N26, N44
Lines duplicated: G1, H12, H28, K2, N1, N33, N87(triple), N91, N109, N171, N242, U1

Result of update dated 24/9/2020:

Line deleted: 303
Lines duplicated: 646, G1, H12, H28, K2, N1, N33, N87(triple), N91, N109, N171, N242, U1

Result of update dated 29/9/2020:

Lines restored: 303, H12, U1
Lines duplicated: 646, C10, G1, H28, K2, N1, N33, N68, N87(triple), N91, N109, N171, N205, N242, N551

401: inbound (Bexleyheath-Thamesmead) deleted

Result of update dated 6/10/2020:

Lines restored: 401, K2, N33, N109
Line duplicated: 646, C10, G1, H28, N1, N68, N87(triple), N91, N171, N205, N242, N551, U1, U3, U5

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Result of update dated 13/10/2020:

Lines restored: H28, N242, U3
Lines duplicated: 646, C10, G1, N1, N68, N87(triple), N91, N171, N205, N551, U1, U5

Line 97: inbound (Stratford-Chingford) missing
Line 256: inbound (Noak Hill-Hornchurch) missing
Line 294: inbound (Noak Hill-Havering Park) missing
Line 474: inbound (Manor Park-Canning Town) missing

Result of update dated 21/10/2020:

Lines restored: 97, 256, 294, 372 (missed the deletion of the outbound), 474, C10
Lines duplicated: 646, Central, District, G1, Metropolitan,N1, N68, N87(triple), N91, N171, N205, N551, Piccadilly, U1, U3, U5, W10

Line 122: truncated at Yorkshire Grey & Woolwich in both directions
Line 193: outbound (Romford-County Park Estate) missing
Line 418: inbound (Epsom-Kingston) missing