Station locations and platform information

Using TfL data for my dissertation project, and I’m in need of two things:

  • Station ID (ideally NLC) to planar coordinates, e.g. BNG or UTM
  • Platform info for each station

For the latter I’m currently looking at StationNodesDescription.csv from the crowding data, but I can’t make sense of some of it (e.g. Amersham - 3 platforms IRL - is listed as 4 (!!) “LU & NR” platforms suggesting that the platforms are shared, but then 2 of these are labelled “Metropolitan” whilst the other two are labelled “NR” suggesting service-specific platforms?). Is there any doc on the format of this file, or a better alternative source that anyone is aware of?

Many thanks!

Welcome @J15t98J

You might find this a good source of correct information about station layoyuts

http://carto.metro.free.fr/cartes/metro-tram-london/

The whole Amserham thing is Only Connect level of strange exeptuoins. This bit of the Met does actually share platforms and rails with National Rail services, but this isn’t the case for Chesham which is a single-track Met only bit. All the way from Amersham to Rickmansworth is Met/NR shared, but south of the “Watford Triangle” the NR and Met services are seperate.

Hi @briantist,

Thanks for your response - that website looks like exactly what I need, however I’d really like to get at the data behind it so I don’t have to manually input every platform on the network…

And whilst I have your attention, any ideas re. the planar coordinates?

The help is really appreciated - thanks again!

Would a table of lat,longs be useful?

“All the way from Amersham to Rickmansworth is Met/NR shared, but south of the “Watford Triangle” the NR and Met services are seperate.”

Worth saying that the Met and NR actually also share tracks on the main lines as far south as Harrow-on-the-Hill. Only the local line tracks are intended for Met only. :wink:

I was trying to not scare @J15t98J off on his first visit…

Ah! I think he’s made of pretty strong stuff given the nature of the dissertation he’s working on!

Thanks for the vote of confidence…not sure I’m feeling it myself! Enjoying the challenge though; wouldn’t swap for any other project :slight_smile:

@briantist the framework I’m using prefers planar coordinates where possible for performance reasons, but if they are unavailable it will accept latlong (or I could convert latlong to planar at run-time, though that doesn’t sound like much fun). So NLC -> planar would be preferable but I’ll happily take NLC -> latlong if that’s all that’s available.

It’s not my area of expertise but all bus stops and I presume stations have eastings and northings associated with them and readily available - are they planar?

Michael

I think this might work

"Alexandra Palace","AAP","910GALEXNDP",51.59830.12014
"Abbey Wood","ABW","910GABWD",51.4908,0.120326
"Acton Central","ACC","910GACTNCTL",51.50880.263617
"Acton Main Line","AML","910GACTONML",51.51690.26763
"Anerley","ANZ","910GANERLEY",51.41310.0659143
"Albany Park","AYP","910GALBNYPK",51.4358,0.126412
"Banstead","BAD","910GBANSTED",51.32930.213158
"Battersea Park","BAK","910GQTRDBAT",51.47730.148163
"Balham","BAL","910GBALHAM",51.44320.152421
"Bat & Ball","BBL","910GBATABAL",51.2898,0.19424
"Bruce Grove","BCV","910GBRUCGRV",51.5930.0698303
"Brockley","BCY","910GBROCKLY",51.46470.0378139
"Beckenham Hill","BEC","910GBCKNHMH",51.42480.0165094
"Bethnal Green","BET","910GBTHNLGR",51.52450.0597548
"Brentford","BFD","910GBNTFORD",51.48790.309064
"Blackfriars","BFR","910GBLFR",51.51180.10333
"Bellingham","BGM","910GBELNGHM",51.43390.0204332
"Bush Hill Park","BHK","910GBHILLPK",51.64150.0692143
"Blackhorse Road","BHO","910GBLCHSRD",51.58620.0412458
"Birkbeck","BIK","910GBIRKBCK",51.40390.0562359
"Barking","BKG","910GBARKING",51.54,0.0807934
"Blackheath","BKH","910GBLKHTH",51.4658,0.00830238
"Beckenham Junction","BKJ","910GBCKNHMJ",51.41150.027152
"Bickley","BKL","910GBICKLEY",51.4004,0.0442555
"Belmont","BLM","910GBELM",51.34410.199487
"Brimsdown","BMD","910GBRIMSDN",51.65530.0310397
"Bromley North","BMN","910GBROMLYN",51.409,0.0173155
"Bromley South","BMS","910GBROMLYS",51.3999,0.0183566
"Barnes Bridge","BNI","910GBNSBDGE",51.47170.252064
"Barnes","BNS","910GBARNES",51.46710.240724
"Bowes Park","BOP","910GBOWESPK",51.60730.11977
"Brixton","BRX","910GBRIXTON",51.46330.114179
"Brondesbury Park","BSP","910GBRBYPK",51.54040.2105
"Brondesbury","BSY","910GBRBY",51.54560.203081
"Belvedere","BVD","910GBELVEDR",51.492,0.152076
"Bexley","BXY","910GBEXLEY",51.4408,0.148229
"Cambridge Heath","CBH","910GCAMHTH",51.5320.0572726
"Castle Bar Park","CBP","910GCBARPAR",51.5230.331405
"Coulsdon Town","CDN","910GCOLSTWN",51.32240.13432
"Coulsdon South","CDS","910GCOLSDNS",51.31580.137884
"Catford Bridge","CFB","910GCATFORD",51.44470.0248562
"Crofton Park","CFT","910GCFPK",51.45520.0364964
"Cheam","CHE","910GCHEAM",51.35550.214167
"Chingford","CHI","910GCHINGFD",51.6331,0.00990609
"Chiswick","CHK","910GCHISWCK",51.48110.267835
"Chipstead","CHP","910GCHSD",51.30930.169428
"Charing Cross","CHX","910GCHRX",51.50770.124106
"Caledonian Road & Barnsbury","CIR","910GCLDNNRB",51.54340.115197
"Chislehurst","CIT","910GCHSLHRS",51.4056,0.0574269
"Chelsfield","CLD","910GCHLSFLD",51.3563,0.10908
"Clapham Junction","CLJ","910GCLPHMJC",51.46420.170247
"Clock House","CLK","910GCLOCKHS",51.40860.0406509
"Clapham High Street","CLP","910GCLPHHS",51.46550.132518
"Camden Road","CMD","910GCMDNRD",51.54190.139772
"Canonbury","CNN","910GCNNB",51.54840.0919121
"Clapton","CPT","910GCLAPTON",51.56160.057018
"Crouch Hill","CRH","910GCROUCHH",51.57130.116929
"Cricklewood","CRI","910GCRKLWD",51.55870.21223
"Crayford","CRY","910GCRFD",51.4483,0.178807
"Carshalton Beeches","CSB","910GCRSHLTB",51.35740.169795
"Carshalton","CSH","910GCRSHLTN",51.36850.166366
"Chessington North","CSN","910GCHSSN",51.36430.300405
"Chessington South","CSS","910GCHSSS",51.35660.308159
"Catford","CTF","910GCATFBDG",51.44440.0263098
"Chadwell Heath","CTH","910GCHDWLHT",51.568,0.12897
"City Thameslink","CTK","910GCTMSLNK",51.51390.10358
"Charlton","CTN","910GCRLN",51.4869,0.0309803
"Crews Hill","CWH","910GCRHL",51.68450.10688
"Crystal Palace","CYP","910GCRYSTLP",51.41810.0726045
"Dagenham Dock","DDK","910GDGNHMDC",51.5263,0.145043
"Deptford","DEP","910GDEPTFD",51.47890.0262632
"Dartford","DFD","910GDARTFD",51.4474,0.219262
"Denham Golf Club","DGC","910GDENHMGC",51.58060.517779
"Dalston Junction","DLJ","910GDALS",51.54450.076215
"Dalston Kingsland","DLK","910GDALS",51.54830.0757611
"Denmark Hill","DMK","910GDENMRKH",51.46820.0893557
"Denham","DNM","910GDENHAM",51.57880.497428
"Drayton Green","DRG","910GDRAYGRN",51.5160.329641
"Drayton Park","DYP","910GDRYP",51.55310.10571
"Earlsfield","EAD","910GERLFLD",51.4420.188446
"Ealing Broadway","EAL","910GEALINGB",51.51480.301752
"East Croydon","ECR","910GECROYDN",51.3750.0922765
"Eden Park","EDN","910GEDPK",51.39080.026605
"Edmonton Green","EDR","910GEDMNGRN",51.62490.0611055
"East Dulwich","EDW","910GEDULWCH",51.46130.0807177
"Elmers End","ELE","910GELMERSE",51.39830.0494288
"Eltham","ELW","910GELTHAM",51.4557,0.0523376
"Enfield Chase","ENC","910GENFC",51.65280.09071
"Enfield Town","ENF","910GENFLDTN",51.65180.0774506
"Enfield Lock","ENL","910GENFLDLK",51.67090.0283383
"Elephant & Castle","EPH","910GELPHNAC",51.49410.09951
"Erith","ERH","910GERITH",51.4817,0.174635
"Elmstead Woods","ESD","910GELMW",51.4171,0.0442827
"Essex Road","EXR","910GESSEXRD",51.54070.09627
"Falconwood","FCN","910GFALCNWD",51.4591,0.0785508
"Feltham","FEL","910GFELTHAM",51.44790.409828
"Fulwell","FLW","910GFULWELL",51.43390.34947
"Finchley Road & Frognal","FNY","910GFNCHLYR",51.55030.183138
"Forest Gate","FOG","910GFRSTGT",51.5494,0.0243617
"Forest Hill","FOH","910GFORESTH",51.43890.0533101
"Finsbury Park","FPK","910GFNPK",51.56480.10565
"Fenchurch Street","FST","910GFENCHRS",51.51160.0785916
"Gordon Hill","GDH","910GGORDONH",51.66350.09431
"Gidea Park","GDP","910GGIDEAPK",51.5819,0.205979
"Greenford","GFD","910GGFORD",51.54230.344542
"Gipsy Hill","GIP","910GGIPSYH",51.42450.0838308
"Goodmayes","GMY","910GGODMAYS",51.5662,0.111713
"Greenwich","GNW","910GGNWH",51.47780.0142096
"Grange Park","GPK","910GGRPK",51.64260.09735
"Gospel Oak","GPO","910GGOSPLOK",51.55530.150766
"Grove Park","GRP","910GGRVPK",51.4304,0.0225783
"Gunnersbury","GUN","910GGNRSBRY",51.49190.275783
"Hackney Downs","HAC","910GHACKNYC",51.54880.0601639
"Hanwell","HAN","910GHANWELL",51.51190.338726
"Hayes & Harlington","HAY","910GHAYESAH",51.50310.420673
"Hackbridge","HCB","910GHKBG",51.37790.153905
"Hampstead Heath","HDH","910GHMPSTDH",51.55580.165172
"Headstone Lane","HDL","910GHEDSTNL",51.60270.356785
"Harlesden","HDN","910GHARLSDN",51.53660.258233
"Hadley Wood","HDW","910GHADLYWD",51.66840.17653
"Hendon","HEN","910GHDON",51.58010.23867
"Haggerston","HGG","910GHAGGERS",51.53910.076443
"Hither Green","HGR","910GHTHRGRN",51.45240.000918992
"Harringay","HGY","910GHRGY",51.57740.10513
"Highbury & Islington","HHY","910GHGHI",51.54670.102077
"Highams Park","HIP","910GHGHMSPK",51.6089,0.000170835
"Hackney Central","HKC","910GHACKNYC",51.54690.0559164
"Hackney Wick","HKW","910GHACKNYW",51.54370.0257662
"Homerton","HMN","910GHOMRTON",51.54660.0386209
"Hampton (London)","HMP","910GHAMPTON",51.41590.372109
"Hampton Wick","HMW","910GHAMWICK",51.41450.312491
"Herne Hill","HNH","910GHERNEH",51.45320.101641
"Harrow-on-the-Hill","HOH","910GHAROOTH",51.57910.33599
"Hounslow","HOU","910GHOUNSLW",51.46250.361827
"Hoxton","HOX","910GHOXTON",51.53190.076746
"Honor Oak Park","HPA","910GHONROPK",51.45050.0456218
"Hornsey","HRN","910GHRNSY",51.58650.11197
"Harold Wood","HRO","910GHRLDWOD",51.5932,0.23425
"Harrow & Wealdstone","HRW","910GHROW",51.59160.334073
"Harringay Green Lanes","HRY","910GHRGYGL",51.57720.0979192
"Hatch End","HTE","910GHTCHEND",51.61010.369518
"Heathrow Airport Terminal 5","HWV","910GHTRWTM5",51.47010.490581
"Haydons Road","HYR","910GHYDNSRD",51.42540.18881
"Hayes (Kent)","HYS","910GHAYS",51.3758,0.0101098
"Ilford","IFD","910GILFORD",51.5591,0.0686806
"Imperial Wharf","IMW","910GCSEAH",51.47430.181411
"Isleworth","ISL","910GISLEWTH",51.47480.336909
"Kilburn High Road","KBN","910GKLBRNHR",51.53740.191871
"Knockholt","KCK","910GKNCKHLT",51.3458,0.130858
"Kidbrooke","KDB","910GKIDBROK",51.4627,0.0283243
"Kenley","KLY","910GKNLY",51.32460.101216
"Kingston","KNG","910GKGSTON",51.41280.301167
"Kensal Green","KNL","910GKENSLG",51.53070.223856
"Kensal Rise","KNR","910GKENR",51.53420.220834
"Kenton","KNT","910GKTON",51.58150.317137
"Kensington Olympia","KPA","910GKENOLYM",51.49720.20931
"Kent House","KTH","910GKENTHOS",51.41270.0457951
"Kentish Town","KTN","910GKNTSHTN",51.550.139442
"Kentish Town West","KTW","910GKNTSHTW",51.54660.146796
"Kew Bridge","KWB","910GKEWBDGE",51.48940.288842
"Kew Gardens","KWG","910GKEWGRDN",51.47760.284962
"Ladywell","LAD","910GLDYW",51.45620.0190336
"London Bridge","LBG","910GLNDNBDC",51.50510.0850604
"Lee (London)","LEE","910GLEEE",51.4495,0.0133451
"Leyton Midland Road","LEM","910GLEYTNMR",51.56940.00704883
"Leytonstone High Road","LER","910GLYTNSHR",51.5638,0.00829068
"Lewisham","LEW","910GLEWISHM",51.46570.0140171
"Loughborough Junction","LGJ","910GLBGHJN",51.46670.10252
"Limehouse","LHS","910GLIMHSE",51.51280.0393527
"London Fields","LOF","910GLONFLDS",51.54120.0577468
"Lower Sydenham","LSY","910GLSYDNHM",51.42480.033339
"Malden Manor","MAL","910GMALDENM",51.38460.261134
"Morden South","MDS","910GMORDENS",51.39630.20031
"Mitcham Junction","MIJ","910GMITCHMJ",51.39290.157323
"Mill Hill Broadway","MIL","910GMLHB",51.61290.24954
"Manor Park","MNP","910GMANRPK",51.5524,0.0452924
"Moorgate","MOG","910GMRGT",51.51960.09024
"Motspur Park","MOT","910GMOTSPRP",51.39510.239175
"Mitcham Eastfields","MTC","910GESTFLDS",51.40840.153969
"Mottingham","MTG","910GMOTNGHM",51.4399,0.0503344
"Mortlake","MTL","910GMRTLKE",51.46840.266592
"Maryland","MYL","910GMRYLAND",51.5458,0.00605784
"Maze Hill","MZH","910GMAZEH",51.4829,0.00329561
"New Barnet","NBA","910GNBARNET",51.64860.17299
"New Beckenham","NBC","910GNBCKNHM",51.41680.0352671
"Norbiton","NBT","910GNRBITON",51.41250.284092
"North Dulwich","NDL","910GNDULWCH",51.45450.0879124
"New Eltham","NEH","910GNWELTHM",51.4377,0.0703826
"New Malden","NEM","910GNEWMLDN",51.40410.25594
"Nunhead","NHD","910GNUNHEAD",51.4670.0526923
"Northolt Park","NLT","910GNTHOLTP",51.55760.359421
"Norbury","NRB","910GNORBURY",51.41140.121922
"New Southgate","NSG","910GNEWSGAT",51.61410.14303
"North Sheen","NSH","910GNSHEEN",51.46540.286427
"Northumberland Park","NUM","910GNMBRLPK",51.60170.0535756
"North Wembley","NWB","910GNWEMBLY",51.56260.303984
"Norwood Junction","NWD","910GNORWDJ",51.3970.0752164
"New Cross","NWX","910GNWCRELL",51.47640.0329953
"New Cross Gate","NXG","910GNEWXGEL",51.47530.0403847
"Oakleigh Park","OKL","910GOKLGHPK",51.63770.16621
"Old Street","OLD","910GOLDST",51.52580.0885296
"Orpington","ORP","910GORPNGTN",51.3735,0.0890385
"Otford","OTF","910GOTFORD",51.3132,0.196791
"Palmers Green","PAL","910GPALMRSG",51.61880.11034
"Petts Wood","PET","910GPETSWD",51.3886,0.0744902
"Plumstead","PLU","910GPLMS",51.4898,0.0842667
"Peckham Rye","PMR","910GPCKHMRY",51.470.0693942
"Penge East","PNE","910GPNGEE",51.41930.0541428
"Penge West","PNW","910GPENEW",51.41760.0608342
"Ponders End","PON","910GPNDRSEN",51.64270.0344735
"Purley Oaks","PUO","910GPURLEYO",51.3470.098852
"Purley","PUR","910GPURLEY",51.33740.113609
"Putney","PUT","910GPUTNEY",51.46130.216473
"Queenstown Road (Battersea)","QRB","910GQTRDBAT",51.47460.146833
"Queens Road (Peckham)","QRP","910GPCKHMQD",51.47410.0575742
"Raynes Park","RAY","910GRAYNSPK",51.40940.229999
"Riddlesdown","RDD","910GRDLSDWN",51.33270.0994469
"Rectory Road","REC","910GRCTRYRD",51.55880.0683933
"Reedham (Surrey)","RHM","910GREEDHMS",51.33220.123872
"Richmond","RMD","910GRICHMND",51.46310.30104
"Romford","RMF","910GROMFORD",51.5748,0.183251
"Rainham (Essex)","RNM","910GRNHAME",51.5174,0.190749
"Rotherhithe","ROE","910GCNDAW",51.5010.053555
"Ravensbourne","RVB","910GRBRN",51.41390.00691665
"St Johns (London)","SAJ","910GSTJOHNS",51.4690.0232328
"South Acton","SAT","910GSACTON",51.49970.270157
"South Bermondsey","SBM","910GSBRMNDS",51.48810.0546714
"Stonebridge Park","SBP","910GSTNBGPK",51.54410.275828
"Southbury","SBU","910GSBURY",51.64850.0530189
"South Croydon","SCY","910GSCROYDN",51.3630.0934522
"Shoreditch High Street","SDC","910GSHRDHST",51.52290.075684
"Shadwell","SDE","910GSHADWEL",51.51090.057454
"Sudbury Hill Harrow","SDH","910GSDBRYHH",51.55840.336168
"Shoreham (Kent)","SEH","910GSHRMKT",51.3322,0.188902
"Stratford International","SFA","910GSTFODOM",51.5450.008613
"South Greenford","SGN","910GSGFORD",51.53320.336653
"Slade Green","SGR","910GSLADEGN",51.4678,0.190504
"Sidcup","SID","910GSIDCUP",51.4344,0.103327
"St Helier (Surrey)","SIH","910GSHLIER",51.390.19912
"St James Street","SJS","910GSTJMSST",51.58070.0328236
"Stoke Newington","SKW","910GSTKNWNG",51.56520.0728812
"Silver Street","SLV","910GSIVRST",51.61520.0726416
"St Margarets (London)","SMG","910GSTMGTS",51.45510.320351
"Stamford Hill","SMH","910GSTMFDHL",51.57450.0766758
"South Merton","SMO","910GSMERTON",51.40320.20551
"St Mary Cray","SMY","910GSTMRYC",51.3948,0.107258
"Sanderstead","SNR","910GSDSD",51.34830.093674
"South Hampstead","SOH","910GSHMPSTD",51.54150.17844
"South Kenton","SOK","910GSKENTON",51.57020.308463
"Shepherds Bush","SPB","910GSHPDSB",51.50530.217652
"Surrey Quays","SQE","910GSURREYQ",51.49280.048142
"Streatham Common","SRC","910GSTRHCOM",51.41870.136152
"Streatham Hill","SRH","910GSTRHILL",51.43830.128157
"Selhurst","SRS","910GSELHRST",51.39170.0879455
"Shortlands","SRT","910GSHRTLND",51.4056,0.00278932
"South Ruislip","SRU","910GSRUISLP",51.55690.399248
"Streatham (Greater London)","STE","910GSTRETHM",51.42580.131547
"Southall","STL","910GSTHALL",51.5060.378613
"South Tottenham","STO","910GSTOTNHM",51.58040.0718059
"St Pancras International","STP","910GSTPADOM",51.53060.125527
"Strawberry Hill","STW","910GSTRWBYH",51.43970.33962
"Sudbury & Harrow Road","SUD","910GSDBRYHR",51.55450.31597
"Sundridge Park","SUP","910GSNDP",51.4134,0.0203874
"Surbiton","SUR","910GSURBITN",51.39250.30396
"Seven Kings","SVK","910GSVNKNGS",51.564,0.0963183
"Seven Sisters","SVS","940GZZLUSVS",51.58250.0748929
"Sydenham","SYD","910GSYDENHM",51.42720.054238
"Sydenham Hill","SYH","910GSYDNHMH",51.43270.0803343
"Syon Lane","SYL","910GSYONLA",51.48180.325131
"Teddington","TED","910GTEDNGTN",51.42450.332692
"Tottenham Hale","TOM","910GTTNHMHL",51.58830.0599224
"Tooting","TOO","910GTOOTING",51.41990.16099
"Tulse Hill","TUH","910GTULSEH",51.43980.105076
"Turkey Street","TUR","910GTURKYST",51.67260.047209
"Twickenham","TWI","910GTWCKNHM",51.45040.32916
"Upper Holloway","UHL","910GUPRHLWY",51.56360.129076
"Upminster","UPM","910GUPMNSTR",51.5594,0.251922
"Vauxhall","VXH","910GVAUXHLM",51.48620.122871
"Waterloo East","WAE","910GWLOE",51.50410.108893
"Wimbledon Chase","WBO","910GWIMLCHS",51.40960.21403
"West Brompton","WBP","910GWBRMPTN",51.48730.195436
"Westcombe Park","WCB","910GWCOMBEP",51.4845,0.0177672
"Worcester Park","WCP","910GWRCSTRP",51.38130.245167
"Wembley Stadium","WCX","910GWEMBLSM",51.55470.285958
"West Croydon","WCY","910GWCROYDN",51.37840.102581
"Waddon","WDO","910GWADDON",51.36740.117332
"West Drayton","WDT","910GWDRYTON",51.51010.472225
"West Dulwich","WDU","910GWDULWCH",51.44060.0909389
"West Ealing","WEA","910GWEALING",51.51360.319784
"West Ham","WEH","910GWHAMHL",51.5286,0.00587547
"Woodgrange Park","WGR","910GWDGRNPK",51.5488,0.0451312
"Walthamstow Central","WHC","910GWLTWCEN",51.5830.0198773
"West Hampstead","WHD","910GWHMPSTM",51.54750.191182
"White Hart Lane","WHL","910GWHHRTLA",51.6050.070907
"West Hampstead Thameslink","WHP","910GWHMDSTD",51.54860.19243
"Winchmore Hill","WIH","910GWNMHILL",51.63390.10089
"Willesden Junction","WIJ","910GWLSDJHL",51.5320.243267
"Wimbledon","WIM","910GWDON",51.42160.206499
"Welling","WLI","910GWELLING",51.4648,0.101846
"Wallington","WLT","910GWALNGTN",51.36040.15083
"Wembley Central","WMB","910GWMBY",51.55230.296419
"Woodmansterne","WME","910GWDMNSTR",51.3190.15426
"Walthamstow Queens Road","WMW","910GWLTHQRD",51.58150.0238381
"Wanstead Park","WNP","910GFRSTGT",51.5517,0.026222
"Wandsworth Town","WNT","910GWDWTOWN",51.46110.188123
"West Norwood","WNW","910GWNORWOD",51.43180.103809
"West Ruislip","WRU","910GWRUISLP",51.56980.437758
"Wood Street","WST","910GWDST",51.58670.00195833
"Wandsworth Common","WSW","910GWANDCMN",51.44620.163383
"Whitton (London)","WTN","910GWHTTON",51.44960.357684
"Woolwich Arsenal","WWA","910GWOLWCHA",51.4899,0.0698646
"Woolwich Dockyard","WWD","910GWOLWCDY",51.4911,0.0546513
"West Wickham","WWI","910GWWICKHM",51.38130.0144252
"Wandsworth Road","WWR","910GWNDSWRD",51.46990.137666
"Barbican","ZBB","940GZZLUBBN",51.52020.0977
"Barking Underground","ZBK","910GBARKING",51.5393,0.0817
"Canada Water","ZCW","910GCNDAW",51.49820.050791
"Elephant & Castle (Underground)","ZEL","910GELPHNAC",51.49440.0998
"Farringdon","ZFD","910GFRNDNLT",51.52050.10504
"Whitechapel","ZLW","910GWCHAPEL",51.51950.0597571
"Acton Town","ZAT","940GZZLUACT",51.50280.280251
"Aldgate","ZAD","940GZZLUALD",51.51430.075614
"Aldgate East","ZAE","940GZZLUADE",51.51520.072287
"Alperton","ZAP","940GZZLUALP",51.54070.299487
"Merdian Water","MRW","940GZZLUAGL",51.60830.0509
"Archway","ZAR","940GZZLUACY",51.56540.135114
"Arnos Grove","ZAG","940GZZLUASG",51.61630.133516
"Arsenal","ZAL","940GZZLUASL",51.55850.105762
"Baker Street","ZBS","940GZZLUBST",51.52310.1569
"Bank","ZBA","940GZZLUBNK",51.51330.088916
"Barkingside","ZBN","940GZZLUBKE",51.5858,0.088511
"Barons Court","ZBQ","940GZZLUBSC",51.49020.213607
"Bayswater","ZBY","940GZZLUBWT",51.51220.188038
"Becontree","ZBZ","940GZZLUBEC",51.5403,0.1274
"Belsize Park","ZBP","940GZZLUBZP",51.55040.164232
"Bermondsey","ZBE","940GZZLUBMY",51.49790.063651
"Bond Street","ZBD","940GZZLUBND",51.51380.149332
"Borough","ZBU","940GZZLUBOR",51.50120.093703
"Boston Manor","ZBM","940GZZLUBOS",51.49570.324764
"Bounds Green","ZBG","910GBOWESPK",51.60710.124219
"Bow Road","ZBR","940GZZLUBWR",51.52680.024824
"Brent Cross","ZBT","940GZZLUBTX",51.57680.213456
"Buckhurst Hill","ZBI","940GZZLUBKH",51.6265,0.046744
"Burnt Oak","ZBO","940GZZLUBTK",51.60270.264199
"Caledonian Road","ZCR","940GZZLUCAR",51.54840.118312
"Camden Town","ZCT","940GZZLUCTN",51.53940.142726
"Canary Wharf","ZCZ","940GZZLUCYF",51.50360.019432
"Canning Town","ZCB","940GZZLUCGT",51.5138,0.008171
"Cannon Street","CST","940GZZLUCST",51.51060.0906094
"Canons Park","ZCP","940GZZLUCPK",51.60780.294654
"Chalk Farm","ZCF","940GZZLUCFM",51.54410.153728
"Chancery Lane","ZCY","940GZZLUCHL",51.51810.111677
"Chesham","ZCM","940GZZLUCSM",51.7050.611219
"Chigwell","ZCG","940GZZLUCWL",51.6179,0.074527
"Chiswick Park","ZCI","940GZZLUCWP",51.49430.267747
"Clapham Common","ZCC","940GZZLUCPC",51.46170.138311
"Clapham North","ZCN","910GCLPHHS",51.46480.129531
"Clapham South","ZCA","940GZZLUCPS",51.45260.147982
"Cockfosters","ZCK","940GZZLUCKS",51.65170.149615
"Colindale","ZCD","940GZZLUCND",51.59530.250143
"Colliers Wood","ZCL","940GZZLUCSD",51.41810.177701
"Covent Garden","ZCV","940GZZLUCGN",51.51290.124159
"Croxley","ZCO","940GZZLUCXY",51.6470.441711
"Dagenham East","ZDE","940GZZLUDGE",51.5444,0.1656
"Dagenham Heathway","ZDH","940GZZLUDGY",51.5416,0.147684
"Debden","ZDB","940GZZLUDBN",51.6454,0.083838
"Dollis Hill","ZDO","940GZZLUDOH",51.55190.238798
"Ealing Common","ZEC","940GZZLUECM",51.51010.28826
"Earls Court","ZET","940GZZLUECT",51.49180.193546
"East Acton","ZEA","940GZZLUEAN",51.51660.247513
"East Finchley","ZEF","940GZZLUEFY",51.58730.164738
"East Ham","ZEH","940GZZLUEHM",51.5389,0.051476
"East Putney","ZPU","940GZZLUEPY",51.45880.211003
"Eastcote","ZEE","940GZZLUEAE",51.57650.396845
"Edgware","ZED","940GZZLUEGW",51.61360.274976
"Elm Park","ZEP","940GZZLUEPK",51.5498,0.19918
"Embankment","ZEK","910GCHRX",51.50720.12236
"Epping","ZEG","940GZZLUEPG",51.6936,0.113867
"Euston","EUS","910GEUSTON",51.52840.134558
"Euston Square","ZES","940GZZLUESQ",51.52560.135836
"Fairlop","ZFA","940GZZLUFLP",51.5957,0.090929
"Finchley Central","ZFC","940GZZLUFYC",51.6010.192447
"Finchley Road","ZFR","940GZZLUFYR",51.54710.180494
"Fulham Broadway","ZFB","940GZZLUFBY",51.48050.194957
"Gants Hill","ZGA","940GZZLUGTH",51.5765,0.066116
"Gloucester Road","ZGR","940GZZLUGTR",51.49420.18299
"Golders Green","ZGG","940GZZLUGGN",51.57220.193993
"Goldhawk Road","ZGW","940GZZLUGHK",51.5020.226748
"Goodge Street","ZGS","940GZZLUGDG",51.52040.134662
"Grange Hill","ZGH","940GZZLUGGH",51.6133,0.092146
"Great Portland Street","ZGP","940GZZLUGPS",51.52370.143956
"Green Park","ZGE","940GZZLUGPK",51.50690.142927
"Hainault","ZHT","940GZZLUHLT",51.6037,0.093119
"Hampstead","ZHM","940GZZLUHTD",51.55670.17822
"Hanger Lane","ZHL","940GZZLUHGR",51.530.293008
"Hatton Cross","ZHX","940GZZLUHNX",51.46660.423409
"Heathrow Terminal 4","HAF","910GHTRWTM4",51.45830.445454
"Hendon Central","ZHN","940GZZLUHCL",51.58330.226496
"High Barnet","ZHB","940GZZLUHBT",51.65060.194751
"High Street Kensington","ZHS","940GZZLUHSK",51.50070.192503
"Highgate","ZHG","940GZZLUHGT",51.57760.146638
"Hillingdon","ZHD","940GZZLUHGD",51.55370.449926
"Holborn","ZHO","940GZZLUHBN",51.51740.120009
"Holland Park","ZHP","940GZZLUHPK",51.50730.205729
"Holloway Road","ZHR","940GZZLUHWY",51.55270.112926
"Hornchurch","ZHU","940GZZLUHCH",51.554,0.219019
"Hounslow Central","ZHC","940GZZLUHWC",51.47110.366922
"Hounslow East","ZHE","940GZZLUHWE",51.47320.356695
"Hounslow West","ZHW","940GZZLUHWT",51.4730.385732
"Hyde Park Corner","ZHY","940GZZLUHPC",51.50280.152749
"Ickenham","ZIC","940GZZLUICK",51.5620.442027
"Kennington","ZKE","940GZZLUKNG",51.48810.105485
"Kilburn","ZKI","910GBRBY",51.54690.204633
"Kilburn Park","ZKP","910GKLBRNHR",51.53510.193966
"Kingsbury","ZKY","940GZZLUKBY",51.58480.278799
"Knightsbridge","ZKN","940GZZLUKNB",51.50160.160507
"Ladbroke Grove","ZLG","940GZZLULAD",51.51720.210862
"Lambeth North","ZLN","940GZZLULBN",51.49910.11176
"Lancaster Gate","ZLA","940GZZLULGT",51.51180.175429
"Latimer Road","ZLR","940GZZLULRD",51.51350.217779
"Leicester Square","ZLC","940GZZLULSQ",51.51120.128236
"Leyton","ZLY","940GZZLULYN",51.55640.00562
"Leytonstone","ZLE","940GZZLULYS",51.5682,0.008215
"Liverpool Street","LST","910GLIVST",51.5180.0819957
"Loughton","ZLO","940GZZLULGN",51.6415,0.055312
"Maida Vale","ZMV","940GZZLUMVL",51.52980.185626
"Manor House","ZMR","940GZZLUMRH",51.57080.095712
"Mansion House","ZMH","940GZZLUMSH",51.5120.094187
"Marble Arch","ZMA","940GZZLUMBA",51.51350.158438
"Marylebone","MYB","910GMARYLBN",51.52250.163628
"Mile End","ZME","940GZZLUMED",51.52510.033404
"Mill Hill East","ZML","940GZZLUMHL",51.60830.209894
"Monument","ZMM","940GZZLUBNK",51.51330.088943
"Moor Park","ZMP","940GZZLUMPK",51.62970.432667
"Morden","ZMO","940GZZLUMDN",51.40230.194791
"Mornington Crescent","ZMN","940GZZLUMTC",51.53420.138843
"Neasden","ZNN","940GZZLUNDN",51.5540.249783
"Newbury Park","ZNP","910GILFENBP",51.5756,0.090337
"North Acton","ZNA","940GZZLUNAN",51.52340.259737
"North Ealing","ZNE","940GZZLUNEN",51.51760.289005
"North Greenwich","NGR","940GZZLUNGW",51.5002,0.003607
"North Harrow","ZNH","940GZZLUNHA",51.58480.362224
"Northfields","ZNF","940GZZLUNFD",51.49930.314157
"Northolt","ZNO","940GZZLUNHT",51.54810.36846
"Northwick Park","ZNK","940GZZLUNKP",51.57860.318206
"Northwood","ZND","940GZZLUNOW",51.61120.423861
"Northwood Hills","ZNS","940GZZLUNWH",51.60050.409299
"Notting Hill Gate","ZNG","940GZZLUNHG",51.50910.196538
"Oakwood","ZOA","940GZZLUOAK",51.64760.131842
"Osterley","ZOY","940GZZLUOSY",51.48090.351994
"Oval","ZOV","940GZZLUOVL",51.48210.112893
"Oxford Circus","ZOC","940GZZLUOXC",51.51510.141769
"Paddington","PAD","910GPADTON",51.51650.176845
"Park Royal","ZPK","940GZZLUPKR",51.52690.284228
"Parsons Green","ZPG","940GZZLUPSG",51.47510.201235
"Perivale","ZPE","940GZZLUPVL",51.53660.323852
"Piccadilly Circus","ZPC","940GZZLUPCC",51.510.134006
"Pimlico","ZPO","940GZZLUPCO",51.48920.133749
"Pinner","ZPI","940GZZLUPNR",51.59290.38092
"Plaistow","ZPS","940GZZLUPLW",51.5312,0.017805
"Preston Road","ZPR","940GZZLUPRD",51.5720.295256
"Putney Bridge","ZPB","940GZZLUPYB",51.46790.208977
"Queensbury","ZQB","940GZZLUQBY",51.59430.285786
"Queensway","ZQW","940GZZLUQWY",51.51040.187434
"Ravenscourt Park","ZRA","940GZZLURVP",51.49410.236258
"Rayners Lane","ZRL","940GZZLURYL",51.5750.371006
"Regents Park","ZRP","940GZZLURGP",51.52350.146863
"Roding Valley","ZRV","940GZZLURVY",51.6171,0.043864
"Royal Oak","ZRY","940GZZLURYO",51.5190.18823
"Ruislip","ZRU","940GZZLURSP",51.57140.421455
"Ruislip Gardens","ZRG","940GZZLURSG",51.56060.411039
"Ruislip Manor","ZRM","940GZZLURSM",51.57320.412346
"Russell Square","ZRS","940GZZLURSQ",51.52290.12431
"Sloane Square","ZSO","940GZZLUSSQ",51.49230.156486
"Snaresbrook","ZSN","940GZZLUSNB",51.5808,0.02149
"South Ealing","ZSE","940GZZLUSEA",51.50140.307019
"South Harrow","ZSX","940GZZLUSHH",51.56470.352212
"South Kensington","ZSK","940GZZLUSKS",51.4940.173922
"South Wimbledon","ZSI","940GZZLUSWN",51.41530.191979
"South Woodford","ZQS","940GZZLUSWF",51.5917,0.027317
"Southfields","SDS","940GZZLUSFS",51.44490.206538
"Southgate","ZSA","940GZZLUSGT",51.63230.127758
"Southwark","ZSW","910GWLOE",51.50380.105092
"Stamford Brook","ZSF","940GZZLUSFB",51.49480.245454
"Stanmore","ZSM","940GZZLUSTM",51.61960.303108
"Stepney Green","ZSG","940GZZLUSGN",51.52190.046459
"Stockwell","ZSL","940GZZLUSKW",51.47220.122909
"Stratford","SRA","910GSTFD",51.54140.00365684
"Sudbury Hill","ZSH","910GSDBRYHH",51.5570.336216
"Sudbury Town","ZSY","940GZZLUSUT",51.55080.315483
"Swiss Cottage","ZSC","940GZZLUSWC",51.54330.174759
"Temple","ZTM","940GZZLUTMP",51.5110.113703
"Theydon Bois","ZTY","940GZZLUTHB",51.6717,0.103125
"Tooting Bec","ZTB","940GZZLUTBC",51.43580.159701
"Tooting Broadway","ZTO","940GZZLUTBY",51.42740.167977
"Tottenham Court Road","ZTC","940GZZLUTCR",51.51620.130871
"Totteridge & Whetstone","ZTW","940GZZLUTAW",51.63020.179261
"Tower Hill","ZTH","910GFENCHRS",51.51010.076354
"Tufnell Park","ZTP","940GZZLUTFP",51.55670.137925
"Turnham Green","ZTR","940GZZLUTNG",51.49510.254533
"Turnpike Lane","ZTL","940GZZLUTPN",51.59030.102792
"Upminster Bridge","ZUB","940GZZLUUPB",51.5588,0.235771
"Upney","ZUY","940GZZLUUPY",51.5383,0.101566
"Upton Park","ZUP","940GZZLUUPK",51.5352,0.035273
"Uxbridge","ZUX","940GZZLUUXB",51.54650.478139
"Victoria","VIC","910GVICTRIC",51.49530.144541
"Wanstead","ZWN","940GZZLUWSD",51.5755,0.028746
"Warren Street","ZWS","940GZZLUWRR",51.52450.138272
"Warwick Avenue","ZWV","940GZZLUWKA",51.52330.183678
"Waterloo","WAT","910GWATRLMN",51.50350.113897
"Watford","ZWT","940GZZLUWAF",51.65740.417281
"Wembley Park","ZWY","940GZZLUWYP",51.56330.279251
"West Acton","ZWE","940GZZLUWTA",51.51790.280993
"West Finchley","ZWH","940GZZLUWFN",51.60950.188469
"West Harrow","ZWX","940GZZLUWHW",51.57980.352921
"West Kensington","ZWK","940GZZLUWKN",51.49050.206477
"Westbourne Park","ZWU","940GZZLUWSP",51.52090.200884
"Westminster","ZWM","940GZZLUWSM",51.50110.124818
"White City","ZWC","940GZZLUWCY",51.5120.224254
"Willesden Green","ZWG","940GZZLUWIG",51.54930.22241
"Wimbledon Park","WMP","940GZZLUWIP",51.43450.199595
"Wood Green","ZWD","940GZZLUWOG",51.59750.109626
"Woodford","ZWO","940GZZLUWOF",51.607,0.034037
"Woodside Park","ZWI","940GZZLUWOP",51.61780.185421
"All Saints","ZAS","940GZZDLALL",51.5110.012752
"Beckton","ZBV","940GZZDLBEC",51.5151,0.060942
"Beckton Park","ZBJ","940GZZDLBPK",51.5089,0.054898
"Blackwall","ZBH","940GZZDLBLA",51.50820.007108
"Bow Church","ZBC","940GZZDLBOW",51.52730.020691
"Bromley-By-Bow","ZBW","940GZZLUBBB",51.52480.011662
"Crossharbour","ZCH","940GZZDLCLA",51.49570.014614
"Custom House","ZCE","940GZZDLCUS",51.5095,0.027684
"Cutty Sark","ZCS","940GZZDLCUT",51.48170.010859
"Cyprus","ZCQ","940GZZDLCYP",51.5088,0.063539
"Deptford Bridge","ZDP","940GZZDLDEP",51.47430.021551
"Devons Road","ZDR","940GZZDLDEV",51.52220.017225
"East India","ZEI","940GZZDLEIN",51.5090.002749
"Edgware Road (Bakerloo)","ZEB","940GZZLUERB",51.52020.170135
"Edgware Road (Circle)","ZEM","940GZZLUERC",51.51990.167666
"Elverson Road","ZER","940GZZDLELV",51.46880.017467
"Gallions Reach","ZGC","940GZZDLGAL",51.5095,0.07222
"Hammersmith","ZHZ","940GZZLUHSD",51.49350.22493
"Hammersmith (District and Piccadilly)","ZHA","940GZZLUHSC",51.49260.222402
"Heron Quays","ZHQ","940GZZDLHEQ",51.50310.021744
"Island Gardens","ZIG","940GZZDLISL",51.48670.00949
"Kings Cross","KGX","910GKNGX",51.53090.122921
"Mudchute","ZMC","940GZZDLMUD",51.49040.015091
"Poplar","ZPL","940GZZDLPOP",51.50750.017229
"Prince Regent","ZPD","940GZZDLPRE",51.5093,0.033295
"Pudding Mill Lane","ZPM","940GZZDLPUD",51.53440.013174
"Queens Park","QPW","910GQPRK",51.5340.204983
"Royal Albert","ZRC","940GZZDLRAL",51.5082,0.046217
"Royal Victoria","ZRB","940GZZDLRVC",51.5091,0.018079
"South Quay","ZSQ","940GZZDLSOQ",51.50050.019102
"St Jamess Park","ZSS","940GZZLUSJP",51.49930.134184
"St Johns Wood","ZSJ","940GZZLUSJW",51.53460.174172
"St Pauls","ZSP","940GZZLUSPU",51.51480.097574
"Tower Gateway","ZTG","940GZZDLTWG",51.51060.074531
"West India Quay","ZIQ","940GZZDLCAN",51.50660.020148
"Westferry","ZWF","940GZZDLWFE",51.50940.025792
"Shepherds Bush Market","ZSB","940GZZLUSBM",51.50580.2264
"Lea Bridge","LEB","910GLEABDGE",51.56770.035556
"Paddington CROSSRAIL","PAA","940GZZLUPAC",51.51530.17539
"Farringdon Crossrail","FAC","940GZZLUFCN",51.520.1053
"Liverpool Street Crossrail","LIX","910GLIVST",51.51740.082966
"Canary Wharf Crossrail","CWF","940GZZLUCYF",51.5061,0.01578
"Custom House CROSSRAIL","CUS","940GZZDLCUS",51.5096,0.025894
"Woolwich Crossrail","WOW","940GZZDLWLA",51.4916,0.071819
"Abbey Wood Crossrail","ABX","910GABWD",51.491,0.1214

That looks great! Thanks for your help :slight_smile:

I’ve noticed that in StationNodesDescription Kensington (Olympia) doesn’t have an eastbound platform and Turnham Green has no Piccadilly platforms?

@J15t98J

HSK is a funny station, but yes, it’s Inner, Outer and 2x West (to Ken Olympia). Because there’s only a simple shuttle (of one train, I think and only sat/sun) now only one of the West platforms is used.

From memory they do want to put the Olympia Shuttle back to full time when the signalling has been upgraded. The issue at the moment is the shuttle has to go through the infamous “Cromwell Curve”, the “Cromwell Road Junction” and the “Warwick Road Junction” and the “West Kensington East Junction” just to serve three stations. This means it can block up with any other District Line train as all of them pass though Earl’s Court.

Ken Olympia used to be a really important station until 22nd October 1940 when the the Luftwaffe dropped bombs on it - http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/k/kensington_olympia/index2.shtml

More here - http://www.abandonedstations.org.uk/Hammersmith_Grove_Road.html

Pic trains DO stop at TG at some times (night tube, very early, very late) but TfL don’t want people thinking that they can change from District/Pic there. See http://content.tfl.gov.uk/wtt-58-piccadilly.pdf page 8

Passengers should change at Hammersmith!

It’s certainly been a fun journey learning about all the inner workings - you really can’t appreciate the astounding complexity of the system until you delve this deep. I’ve just been trying to make Met trains stopping at Neasden fit into my model…if only I had realised what I was getting myself into with this project…!

re. Kensington (Olympia) I was more referring to that fact that the platforms listed in StationNodesDescription seem to be logical rather than physical, e.g. the aforementioned Amersham, or Cockfosters having only 2 platforms:

…or Baker Street having the correct 10 platforms but in a different combination to what carto.metro.free.fr shows:


image

i.e. the “platforms” are actually just records of unique(line, direction), and this is how I have utilised them in my model.

So following the same pattern I was surprised that Kensington (Olympia) has a “platform” record for District WB but not EB? The lack of one seemingly suggesting that traffic does not depart from the station?

(thanks for sharing carto.metro.free.fr btw, very useful for debugging!)

Hi @J15t98J

Ok, putting on my most nerdy hat…

The District Line is run as three distinct services. I’m going to refer to the diagrams at https://tfl.gov.uk/corporate/publications-and-reports/car-line-diagrams

Firstly, there is the “city service” which is this one

The second service is the “Wimbleware” service

And the third is the Kensington Olympia Shuttle service

image

Which is why the platforms at HSK (High Street Kensington) are so odd. The Olympia service, when it runs, uses the bay platforms 3 and 4. Platform 1 is therefore the “inner circle” one, also is used for Earls Court services and everywhere West AND Circle Line trains to the east. Platform 2 is always trains to Edgware Road, but they can be Circle Line trains going north or Wimbleware trains going north.

But… for a while Olympia trains ran all the way to Edgware Road, so the service looked like this

Which mean that at HSK, platforms 3 and 4 were out of use, as Olympia trains would from Platform 1. It is expected that this service pattern will return when the “Four Lines” upgrades are finished and the signalling is dragged into the 21st Century.

I should also add this in because the Circle Line from HSK looks like this

But historically Circle Line trains didn’t terminate at Edgware Road going clockwise, and they didn’t go to Hammersmith either.

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It’s the CartoMetro map that right.

There are four Met platforms at Baker Street, not two. There are two extra bay platforms which run the Watford Met service (normally 4tph) which overlays the other met services that run from Aldgate.

The “LU Multiline” platforms for the H&C and Circle at Baker Street are the same platforms, Outer Rail Circle being Eastbound H&C and Inner Rail Circle being Westbound H&C.

It’s a bit odd that the four terminating bay platforms at Cockfosters are showing up as a two east-west platforms, given the rather obvious north-south alignment of the line at that point.

It’s always a bit odd where the line direction isn’t what you might expect. If you walk along the 1000m of road from Kensington Olympia to Kensington High Street you’re definitely going North East!

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This is becoming a bit of a Q&A, apologies…

Noticed that both IR & OR Circle line platforms at St James’s Park are listed as being WB. Can I assume this is a mistake in the data?

@J15t98J

Well, the Circle Line is heading eastbound both ways (Edgware Road is north-west, Hammersmith due west)

But conventionally these are “east” and “west” so yes, you are correct, the data is wrong.

There seem to be many errors in that data. It makes you wonder if anyone is actually using it?

The Cockfosters entry is particularly strange because there a four platforms there(serving three bays), all facing the same direction.

The whole East/West thing is a bit of a minefield.

If anyone is interested LU have mnemonics for the two directions.

OUSE Outer, Up, South East
WIND West, Inner, North, Down

So a particular bit of line will use one of those pairs; Up/Down or East/West etc. So confusion on the Piccadilly where you leave Heathrow travelling East and arrive at Cockfosters travelling North.

@netstruggler

I’m amazed that people use public transport sometimes. My favorite thing is King’s Cross St Pancras to Euston, which is

  • Northbound on the Northern Line
  • Southbound on the Victoria Line
  • Westbound on the District/Met
  • Inner (called “Westbound”) on the Circle

But a free 1000m, 12 minute easy walk around the Francis Crick building. South-west.

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