Missing London Overground Timetable Info

Hi,

I’m trying to get the timetable information for London Overground.

If I make the following call I get all the route information:

https://api.tfl.gov.uk/Line/Mode/overground/Route

However, when I try to get timetable information such as the following, I get the error message ‘No valid route found for 910GWCROYDN to 910GHGHI on line: london-overground’:

https://api.tfl.gov.uk/Line/london-overground/Timetable/910GWCROYDN/to/910GHGHI

The same calls work on the tube and dlr transport methods but seemingly not here. Please can anyone assist/advise?

Many thanks

Hi @emvy03

Welcome!

We currently don’t support the dynamic call to timetables for London Overground or TfL Rail modes.

This may be something we make available in the future but for now, I would suggest that you use the DARWIN Timetable function that is available from the Rail Delivery Group.

https://wiki.openraildata.com/index.php/NRE_Darwin_Timetable

The 2 operator codes are LO for Overground and XR for TfL Rail.

Thanks,
James

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Hi James,

Thanks for the rapid reply!

Okay cool - I’ll give that a go. I’m actually using that for something else but didn’t realise London Overground was supported.

Thanks again!!

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@emvy03

You can get the whole of the UK Rail timetable from the FTP connection to the timetable server at NRE

https://opendata.nationalrail.co.uk/api/staticfeeds/3.0/timetable

The format is a bit old fashioned!

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My understanding is that in the timetable response, the values timetable.routes[0].stationIntervals[0].intervals are static times rather than dynamic.

Is that right, and if so is there anywhere in the unified API where I could find equivalent static values for the overground i.e. average travel times between stations?

Is anyone able to tell me where I can find average travel times between stations on overground routes? i.e. static travel times, not dynamic timetables.

The static travel times are included in the Timetable endpoint for tube and bus etc. Is there an equivalent for overground and tfl rail? @jamesevans

@dan.kwiat

They are listed in the opening pages (page 2) of the working timetables PDFs

the times vs stops come out something like this…

Thanks! I guess I’ll be feeding pdfs through llms… unless anyone has the structured data to share?

I just realised the working timetables are for tube only, which I already have. These are the overground timetables: London Overground timetables - Transport for London

and the Liz tables PDF are here…

I did this diagram back in 2018 so it didn’t have the West Drayton to Reading timings.

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Hello and welcome to the forum!

The station intervals are, for the most part, static. However, they may change when there are revisions to the timetable.

Unfortunately, this is not available for London Overground or the Elizabeth line, but you may be able to calculate these for yourself using the timetable data published by Network Rail.